March 8, 2018


Members Present:  Dan Barreras, Mike Sliter, Bill Marsden, Ron Labrum, Jim Whitaker, Bryan Shak, and Peter Logan


Minutes:  The minutes of the November 30, 2018 meeting were approved.  It was indicated that the following item has not been one:

·        Bill and Bryan have not received authorization to write checks


Treasurer Report:  Jim Whitaker reported the following

·        Current Balance (September 27):  $4,572 with expected expenses of $3,735, and a possible surplus at the end of the year of about $700.

·        Peter Logan was introduced as the new treasurer.

·        Peter Logan and Bryan Shak will become authorized to use the club checking account.  Jim Whitaker will continue to be authorized.

·        Mike suggested, and the board agreed, that we should, as much as possible, use a combination of email and leaving flyers in the conference room on Mondays rather than use the postal service.


Membership Committee: 

·        Bryan reported that the club currently has 66 members.


Tournament Committee: 

·        There was a suggestion to increase prize funds for the member-guest tournament and the annual meeting tournament by taking money ($5?) from each weekly prize fund.  Nothing was confirmed.

·        There was another suggestion to use money from prize fund winnings that have not been claimed by members who have left the club, and there is no chance of it being used.  There was a lot of discussion about this, including the raising of a number of questions.  How will we know when there is no chance of it being used?  What is the legal status of this money?  Is it a “gift card” or something else?  It was agreed that we should work with the Shoreline General Manager and his people.


Handicap Committee:

·        There was a discussion of what kind of relief can be taken from the waterfowl fencing which is used to try to keep water fowl off the fairways and greens.  A handout described relief that can be taken – but it was already described in the Senior Club Local Rules.  Note also that a couple weeks ago the hazard line was incorrectly marked making it impossible to take this relief.


Waterfowl Fencing and other devices installed around the lakes are to protect the greens from migratory birds.  Relief is available within the hazard, at no penalty, or outside the hazard, under penalty of one stroke, pursuant to provisions of “Temporary Immovable Obstructions” (Appendix I, Part B, 7-IIIb).

This refers to “Temporary Immovable Obstructions” (TIO) in a hazard (like waterfowl fencing).  Relief can be taken if the obstruction interferes with stance, swing, or ball flight. You can take relief, inside the hazard, within one club length of the nearest point of relief where the TIO does not interfere, but no nearer the hole.  The ball must be dropped inside the hazard, and the ONE CLUB LENGTH local rule does not apply inside the hazard.  Any relief outside the hazard results in a one stroke penalty.


·    How are ties resolved (usually for the last place for ‘in the money’ ties)?  The procedure should be consistent.  I think we should probably incorporate the tiebreaker procedures into the Shoreline Seniors Golf Club Local Rules.  Discuss at next meeting.

From the following web site in Appendix I, Part B, Section 10 (How to Decide Ties), Stroke Play, section (c):!rule-14322

If a play-off of any type is not feasible, matching score cards is recommended. The method of matching cards should be announced in advance and should also provide what will happen if this procedure does not produce a winner. An acceptable method of matching cards is to determine the winner on the basis of the best score for the last nine holes. If the tying players have the same score for the last nine, determine the winner on the basis of the last six holes, last three holes and finally the 18th hole. If this method is used in a competition with a multiple tee start, it is recommended that the "last nine holes, last six holes, etc." is considered to be holes 10-18, 13-18, etc.

For competitions where the handicap stroke table is not relevant, such as individual stroke play, if the last nine, last six, last three holes scenario is used, one-half, one-third, one-sixth, etc. of the handicaps should be deducted from the score for those holes. In terms of the use of fractions in such deductions, the Committee should act in accordance with the recommendations of the relevant handicapping authority.

In competitions where the handicap stroke table is relevant, such as four-ball stroke play and bogey, par and Stableford competitions, handicap strokes should be taken as they were assigned for the competition, using the players' respective stroke allocation table(s)."

I read this to mean that we can do what we want as long as it is clearly specified.

Greens Committee Meeting

·        Nothing major to report, see the Greens Committee report for January 31 2018 for details.

·        Some concerns to raise at the next Advisory Greens Committee meeting:

o       Ball washers on the tee boxes are often short of water.

o       Are the new tee boxes dead or dormant.


New Business

·        Steve Janisch is the new General Manager for Shoreline, and Ray Robinson is the Assistant General Manager.  James Birchall has been promoted within Touchstone (the operators of Shoreline).


Next Meeting:  Thursday May 24, 2018 at 8:00 am.  Key items at that meeting will be the Club Championship (which Bill has agreed to chair, and the Member/Guest Tournament which Jim and Mike will chair.